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Hi,

Before I started the short aluminum tank to a King Tiger to these I now hiring a building report here.
The tub I will build a strong brushless motor, real, functional reduction gears, my own design of suspension and real inertia.

The zugesannte of my clients with the upper hull transom ever makes a good impression and that has not otherwise almost normal cheap toys impression.

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For the tub I have some parts machined from aluminum plates.

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But before I can start gluing the pan and I still have some small parts, such as rotating arm bearing above all that I need to stick to the pan.

To build the tub I need a whole lot of small parts, which I first still producing the same, and for this, other pans, so I dealt with the bearings for the swing arms. Times to show what work is already contained in such small portions time I go out a bit more.

Since I'm a completely different design such as Tamiya have worth and put on a much greater stability, they are also correspondingly large. So I use this 10mm brass, I abdrehe to 20mm length and a paragraph andrehe 2.5 mm deep.

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Once I have the bushings then drilled and grated for 6mm shafts I binge on later outside with a router or an internal shoulder for an O-ring seals on the matter later.

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And then the camps also are waiting their incorporation into the tub.

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The holders of the chain tensioner in the tub turned from 20mm brass.

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Once these are done as far as I need again a whole lot of my collars with double clamping and not just for the tub.

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Since I have finished these collars again it pays to think about how to save work sealed rides. Therefore, I once tried to make me a specially sharpened short drill and it works. So I skip the drilling with a center drill and can pierce clean with a tool set collars.

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After then where are all machined on the lathe I must now make the two threaded holes in each ring.

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So I've started today and do it tomorrow then done.

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Thank you,

After the exhibition in Munster, it then goes on with it.

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Also this wonderful work, very interesting.
You've made ​​me want to try using the brushless motors.
What engines can I use? Without spending much.
Characteristics of engines?
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Hi Gertig,

I use only runner motors for drives expression. So I have relatively gerige speeds and high torques disposal.

For standard motors with gear you can use the 28mm diameter should be as short as possible, otherwise they will be too strong. Depending nto gear I use as motors from 1050 to 1450 U / V
I put myself as a preferred Keda Motors Company.

You can find and use Tunrigy but also on the website of Hobby King.

All thing you must find the diameter of the drive shafts of the eighth and Mtoren to find the right gear. Simply drill does not work.

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Thus, the exhibition in Munster is over and it's also something more here.

By the way, I milled the counter made ​​of aluminum.

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Meanwhile, the adjusting rings and the thrust bearing were to finish.

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Then I started another axes with the swing arm. Since I'm doing the right parts for two sinks.

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I'm starting to get most of the parts I need so together for the tub.

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As I slowly got most of the parts together now I start gluing the pan.

This work takes place in steps and meheren dauertt about 2 weeks until the tray is fully loaded.

Today the bearing sleeves of the swing arms are used to glue the inner brace.

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So that the adhesive actually finds its connection to the metal must be sanded well especially the aluminum and degrease.
There is also a small game of skill to glue the bushings into the bar without all the bends and breaks again.

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Then everything just fits so well with each other nor do I set the forward pieces on a flat plate and weigh everything evenly. Thus, it can be cured by tomorrow.

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Hello Edwin, I love your work.
I see that uses the very specific glue for some assemblies, in this case, the brass bushings serve only as a guide and are not structural, then the glue is ok.
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Hi Gertig,

the brass bushings are structurally very well with my design. There, next to the drive the highest forces are absorbed and distributed.

After I started gluing the tub yesterday is now today you'll see something more.

First grind everything again, degrease and dry adjust.

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And then glue.

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I do everything on a polished granite slab. This always guarantees me a perfectly level and distortion-free surface. Crossing the bearings of the rocker arms and the chain tensioner I put 6mm silver steel rods. So the parts depend entirely alone Vonn clean and at right angles from each other. And I have the tub just fix it with clamps.

If the adhesive is tomorrow then hard at first you at least 4 days of annealing. Then I have before I can glue the remaining parts of the aluminum tray to adjust the HL upper hull, since the lower hull is designed for matrimonial Tamyia. But that's just a little thing.

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After the glue on the aluminum tank is now hard enough, I first removed the stabilizing bars.
Which are each time a little stuck, but if you rotate it out with a screwdriver it's really easy.

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To then be able to check the fit of the upper hull I had to edit something that too. The old fixtures and fittings must cast all away and the first sites I have sanded smooth.

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Then I could check times as the aluminum tank in the plastic upper hull fits ....... better than expected ....

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But before I can adjust the chain nor the covers I have to adjust the nose cone. But this is only possible when the adhesive after heat treatment is sufficiently strong.

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Hello Edwin,
if I had seen it before gluing the brass bushes, did not you demand on the strength of the glue. A King Tiger tank with real reduction gears, brushless motor 3140466873
The brass bushes they make no effort, are interposed between the profiles aluminum plates, good job ..... fantastic work!!
All very accurate and the lower part fits well with the upper part, smooth continuation ......... are curious when I see works so well made.
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After the heat treatment of the tub is finished as far as I can edit them without having to fear that I vandalize. Also edit the files with the bow is a not to be underestimated burden of splices, especially if the file time roughing.

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And so now the upper hull fits perfectly on the lower inlet.

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Moreover, one sees time again as just the plastic parts are so ..... : cursing:

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One has to align to each other as closely as possible the parts then the chain plates now be able to adjust fairly accurate.

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After I adjusted the chain covers these were glued to the pan.

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Thus, the bonding is not over yet, but you will still see it.

By the way, I also have milled and machined the gear cheeks.

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Being able to do precisely match the two sides is not easy.
Sometimes the plastic is deformed, I once used the heat gun, but it seemed that the plastic thermal memory had returned and always wrong, just keeping in shape and with a rapid cooling I was able to straighten it.
also the casings of the gears .... waoooo A King Tiger tank with real reduction gears, brushless motor 310839 A King Tiger tank with real reduction gears, brushless motor 310839
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hi,

works best still straighten with hot water because of the softening point of the plastic at about 80 ° C. That should but on a flat surface, make you force the part previously in the desired shape and also fixed after heating so is allowed to cool. Everything else is not working properly.

The gearbox plates shall be constructed as stable as I do. Engines with a maximum 450W which I still use to build heavy flywheels.

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This time I'm doing the first swing axles done, because I need to stick to the thrust bearing in the tub.

After I got the 18 piece 3mm silver steel rods cut and sanded these are soldered to the washed-bearing pieces of the axes.

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When soldering is necessary to make sure that really all the surfaces are wetted with solder. In order to succeed needs the tin of course some space and the rods may only loosely stuck in their bores. But then you have a good and durable connection.

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Since the bars are soldered to play something I have to align before further processing first, and only need the ends match. That is done most easily if one makes also use a rotary steel and reverence as the axis rotates so long and gently bend until they are no more than 1/10 differs.

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So I can then revise the axes with a blue buff.

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Now I can install the thrust bearing in the tub. These are simply plugged into the holes in the bars and axes aligned with the swingarm. So I can attach them each with a drop of glue. It needs more of these camps do not they need to be secured by the adhesive only on the Move.

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Now I have to wait again.

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After yesterday I needed the axes in the tub I'll do this today and finished verklebe it with the rocker arms.
This bonding is probably the hardest and most highly charged of everything that I do, but if you do it right it's like welded.

First off I had to remove the set screws from the rocker arms. The fall out over and bask away they are sanded and the stop pins.

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Before bonding, all contact surfaces must be completely free of oxides. Just so you get a really durable bond.
Then I can put together part by part.

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Since the axes are sitting with some play in the rocker arms I built a simple bracket to align this.

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So they can now stand up to the setting of the adhesive and come back the heat treatment.

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A King Tiger tank with real reduction gears, brushless motor 3140466873 ciao , complimenti per il proseguimento del tuo splendido modello con scafo e non solo auto costruito con maestria anche nell'utilizzo del tornio e tecniche varie ...... mooolto interessante , buona serata robby62 A King Tiger tank with real reduction gears, brushless motor 993674217 ciaooooo

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Yes, and then it goes with the suspension on.

The swing arms are ready to install and as far as the way I have the reinforcement angle of the chain also covers attached.


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Then again I first wound springs and that it is worth the same and more.

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As I have already prepared as far as most of the small parts I could immediately start the installation.

The swing arms again get a plastic cover plate and an O-ring that holds the bearing clean.

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And so then ever sees the front part of the suspension in which I set the adjustment rings in the middle to even with gearbox installed this yet to be set.


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Incredible, a fantastic job .... almost like drinking a glass of water!! Very Happy Very Happy
The arms have made them yourself? Or are purchased.
The harmonic steel wire that has diameter?
thanks
and good continuation.
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Hi Gertig,

the swing arms are metal arms that were meant for the plastic tub. This I have fashioned and so they are perfect for me.
With this pan, I use two spring steel strength due to the heavy metal tower. In the middle I use 6 x 1.5 mm, and the remaining rocker arms 1.2 mm spring steel.

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The different diameters will give you a good realistic behavior of the tank running.
When braking lowers the front and leaving the rear.
And 'exactly what I wrote?
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The suspension is now ready. In the middle I have installed but due to the heavy metal tower with 6 swing arms stronger springs, then the record as the increased weight.

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After I've installed all aluminum angle as the holder of the springs, the suspension now so far been done.

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A first setting I could do now about it.

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Now, slowly the wheels are mounted and I can do with the chain tensioner on.

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Thus, the rollers are mounted.

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When the two halves I have adapted somewhat to each other and now is the on its own wheels.

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